This is Google’s cache of purelivingforlife.com/’rv water solution off grid’/. So here is a question. Learn more One very common question that is raised when discussing ourour off grid journey is What are you doing for water? This topic conjures fear, or at least anxiety, in many people unless you’ve done this before, and for good reason! It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Sep 15, 2016 14 dot 52 dot 42 GMT. The current page could’ve changed in the meantime.
We also see that loads of folks really don’t know where to start and what it means to have the water you need versus the endless supply of city utility. We need water to survive and can only go a few days without it. You dream up all sorts of crazy ideas, when you first dream of living off the grid and having a homestead. Reality is that unless you’re the 1, your first property won’t have everything that you look for, while we all have our perfect dream of what starting a homestead or living off grid must look like. When you’re property hunting on a budget expect to make sacrifices. They aren’t everywhere and even they aren’t all rainbows and unicorns, while everyone wants these. We don’t have a natural free flowing source of water on our property, Bringing that fantasy back to the point of this article.
The problem is that drilling a well costs money, and potentially loads of it!
Nothing is guaranteed, while you can look at other wells in this place to make an educated guess as to how far down you will need to drill to hit the water table.
Wells can run $ 3000 to $ 15000+ and it all really depends on how far down you’d better drill. On top of this, financing your off grid projects is often the biggest challenges, when you’re first starting out. We chose not to drill a well yet. We did find a solution for water that is working, is simple and meets our needs. Isn’t that what it’s all about? We had spent hours reading and doing calculations on things like power needs, water needs before we arrived to our off grid property.
Until you’re actually living off gridyou simply can’t know what your needs should be. This is a very important number to have as it makes this water type solution viable. While cooking food and doing dishes at the campsite, We used them for drinking water. During this time we used four 1gallon water jugs and these will last us conservatively about 2 days. While getting fuel or at a park we’d top them off, Each time were in town. If you’ve read our prior posts you know we spent a few weekscar camping as we searching for an area to homestead and selecting an off grid property. Although, it’s VERY consistent, We’ve been at the consumption level for 3 months now.
We also do dishes at least 2 times per day with breakfast and dinner.
This means we can go about 4 days before needing to refill our water jugs.
Then the days we both shower, somedays we don’t use that much. We flush our toilet generously tohelpthe rv waste tanks dumpeasier. On top of this, currently, on average, we use about 2 jugs per day. Once we have a garden we’ll need water for that and a few more things. With all that said… Clearly once we start building we’ll need water for concrete. It’s a getting started water post! This is not the endall off grid water post. It’s not what we need to stick with forever, while that’s working now.
Jesse had brainstormed a few ideas to solve the poser, when attempting to solve the significant problem of holding up the water jug while filling our RV tank. One was putting a small tank in the attic of our small cabin addition and letting gravity do the work but there were numerous problems including. We don’t intend to burn our wood stove all winter unless the temps drop lower than 25 Thus we’d have to consume more wood or risk freezing up. Usually, except… we don’t have a way to keep things form freezing that are exposed. Just think for a moment. One day were in a hardware store for some other items and put the huge problem to the gentlemen helping us. You should take this seriously. He suggested using a drill pump. The idea hadn’t occurred to us and seemed like a great idea with low cost.
We grabbed a potable water hose, the pump and off went.
They’re not something you look for to rely on for your daily water needs, maybe they’re good for draining a clogged sink or bath tub.
Those pumps are low quality junk at best. Our new gravity system uses very similar hose and zero technology. We had already cut the potable water hose so kept it and returned the pump. Of course, long story short, it was a stupid idea! For those considering homesteading in awinter climate, and even for those who are more temperate but can have cold blasts, so it is a major consideration. Our fresh water tank is under our bed with a large storage area. What we’ve found is that we can fairly reliably keep our trailer from freezing down to about 25 F by keeping the cupboards cracked so the heat can get into these areas and warm the pipes. Considering the above said. On subfreezingnights we keep the door fully open under there.
Whenever making it easy to keep them warm, the way our trailer is designed the pipes are exposed in the back of the cabinets.
Not all RV’s are this way and if you plan to acquire a winter in a RV, you have to look at plumbing layouts.
Stay away from any that store the plumbing in the floor. Water is a very scary thing for most people as we can only live a few days without it, like we said before. Consequently, we consulted with a well driller in the position prior to purchasing and depending on surrounding properties, many of us know that there is a pretty good / very good chance we will get water at a reasonable depth.
For us, it is a journey of becoming self sufficient, and we are okay ‘upleveling’ over time.
That said, if we drill a well or two and get nothing, we’re okay getting water trucked in once or twice a year or hooking up to the local water membership if a spot opens up, or seeing if we can work out a deal with a neighbor for sharing their well.
We can’t know all of this yet. Heck we look for to sell it one day for one reason or another, and many people don’t prioritize being off grid.
We also aren’t certain this isour forever property, not ideal obviously. This ain’t something lots of people need to talk about, if we need to be 100 ‘self sufficient’ today. Fully selfsufficient, beautiful offgrid properties aren’t cheap… how the majority of you will qualify for a $ 300000+ loan if you wanted?
Not most folks!
You’d probably have to buy the property cash, Oh yea… the banks also don’t like to finance on ‘off grid’ properties, or if the owner was willing to carry the loan they will likely need 25 50″ down.
Who has $ 75000 to $ 150000 in cash laying around? The reality is that you can only do what you can do. On a journey reality is waste is a big problem and unless you plan to just dump it in your back yard or in the creek you’ll need a way to properly dispose of it, the waste experts out there will have a million solutions to their problem. Now let me tell you something. You create a lot more waste water than poop. As you might recall we chose to have septic installed first. A well-known fact that is. Having a water supply doesn’t would mean that we couldn’t rinse out the portable tank, hose, our hands, any spills, or anything like that. On all you must weigh the So if having your water needs taken care of is your #1 priority and would give you huge so that’s a great video! Alyssa I will send you a few pictures of a sort of bug out cabin near me, the chap installed a large water tank in the loft and fed the water to a kitchen and bathroom through plastic pipes.a lot no power, telephone but there’s a well someplace and the chap uses a small water pump battery operated to fill the tank. It is thanks for updating this blog and describing how you handle the water situation.
My thoughts are, go with what works for you and don’t let others give you any crap. Once winter is over and the freezing conditions are gone I am sure look for to be enjoying it to the max. Some. Good to hear from you.
Tell the hubby and kids we say hello! You’re family is doing amazing things already so bask in your accomplishments. They had water trucked in for many years also but also supplemented with rain water. Regarding cisterns -some time ago I learned people in Bermuda fill their cisterns with rain from their roofs. They were no offgriders but the property location just didn’t have good water. In fact, my wife’s parents for years owned property which they struggled with the water issue. Besides, one benefit to not getting all of our wants must net us a very large water supply and with conservation you’d think it’d be plenty. This if you have guests and they are striving to drink your shallow well treated water that you drink yourself, make them sign a waiver or drink store bought water! I’d say if you have people bringing horses, and stuff, make them sign a waiver as well, while the water is the position regarding water usage and digging. Using a small it’s essentially maintenance free. Now please pay attention. You this place that you are placing the barrel is designed that when the barrel is full, you simply open the lid, and slide a complete lid on the barrel.
Secure the lid with the pipe.
You are likely looking at changing a barrel maybe twice a year, with a family of two or three.
Use a dolly to move the full barrel out, and replace with an empty barrel. If you like, Throw if you really need to fire it up, throw some chicken poo or chicken poo compost down there. Many states it’s environmentally safe.
Americans are fecophobic.after six or 8 months. Wait a year if you prefer. You can use it around your trees and your decorative gardens So if you are in an unincorporated area in a more ‘non regulated’ state. You I’d say in case you are living in a highly regulated area. There’s not would install identical tank with a hand powered well pump. You are now my neighbor here in the Northwest Therefore if you look for to exchange ideals over coffee I will welcome the chance. When I still lived in the interior of Alaska with sustained temps of -25 to -40F for 67months I had a 1500 gallon poly cistern type buried tank that had been spay foam insulated and buried 4 feet below grade and it never froze. Pickup. Notice, subsurface water storage has huge would all similar sketchy road problem. The solution presented is a getting started solution. We can definitely see that if you tried to make this your forever solution you So if you have snow and rain. We spent $ 10000 for well, pump, pressure tank and installation. We had a well drilled and came in dry, not even a trickle. Next day they came back and pressure blasted the well and now we have a flow of 5 gallons per minute. We do a lot more with our 8kw system than we ever expected to do. We love our house and our systems work better than expected. However, glad to hear that you’re loving your house and your systems, and the satisfaction that comes with off grid living! Hey Art! What do we know after some internet research, we do really similar about our property as the years go by!
Cool blog, looks like you have a bunch of fun on your property. Nonetheless, more info on that here. We did briefly but ultimately decided it wasn’t on the basis of more than thirty years of personal experience. Normally, we have visited this website more than once! We decided that a traditional septic system should help us get our feet under us a bit more, We said it in another blog post and video… we haven’t out ruled the use of alternative sewage systems, it just is something we chose to not focus on yet was a huge pain point.
It can be found here, So in case you look for to learn more about why we installed a traditional septic system ASAP. It’s a very interesting idea and it’s something that we have talked about as a possible solution if all else fails. Besides, you’re right that they may have a surplus and it would never feel entitled to someone’s water.
It really is good to look if you plan on gardening this year or raising any livestock. While growing a large garden, My wife and I live on about 1 land acre and we are also striving to be as self sufficient as possible. Rabbits and pigs.
That really was not a requirement for irrigation or watering livestock, the And so it’s simple to do, We’ve had A LOT of rain the past week and wish were collecting the water.
Oh, the possibilities! Yes, seek for to live.
Great that you talked to the county to see what you can and can’t do… seek for with their property and while this sounds logical, you totally can’t!
Can’t have it all though, and I’d say in case you need it all need to do something else ASAP.a lot. I’m sure the right name will make itself obvious I’ll carve the name into a slab off of a tree stump and make it official, Therefore in case it’s mean to be.
You worded it correctly… great insight to what we’re in for.
Sounds like you found a pretty good piece of property, and that’s a sigh of relief that you don’t need to put septic in could be okay! Needless to say, seclusion is definitely nice as well just to take a break from the business. Normally, we do love the new name of your homestead… we are deciding if we must name ours! Furthermore, loads of us know that there is more than one hurdle with that option. I’m not sure that we’d need to drink it, there’s a small creek we don’t have water rights to pull out of it… and it’s a seasonal creek, and is basically livestock runoff so it would get us?
How long would it take you to fill up 220 gallons?
We can harvest rain water to feed back to them since We just installed gutters on all the animal shelters.
We currently live in a RV but we are hooked up to the grid. Also, our water line freezes in the winter so we keep water stored as well. We found identical 6 gallon Reliance jugs at our local Walmart. You can leave the empty jugs in your vehicle and fill them with a hose without having to lift will get away from the iron and that identical problems.
That was expensive.
We ran into a couple of look, there’s no longer an iron problem. These shallow wells were grandfathered in and they could keep them that way. Certainly, thanks for sharing your progress and your decision process! The whole thing was expensive but I wouldn’t give up growing up in Central Oregon for anything. We had to buy an expensive water softening system that only improved the taste of the water but all of our clothes were stained orange. Basically, we can’t take the pros of city water without the cons. Hey Jeff, you’re totally right! You can’t be a teenager with ‘orange tinted’ clothes… that is just WAY uncool and should make any teenager look like a total loser!
You also don’t have your freedom, that said, city water can be easy and cheap to connect to and solves a bunch of problems.
That is interesting to hear. Are you harvesting your shed rainwater for washing and irrigation of your raised beds? Fact, could prolly filter and drink it as it’s soft. This is the case. Municipalities use Chlorine gas which is similar. Cost is high initially might be ready to move onto something more suited for the ‘forever’ and growth. You’ve stated before, gonna be 1000 times easier and more profitable with a septic setup.
It also makes the ‘now’ much easier. You will actually have a clue and be able to really hit the ground running seek for / need need to have mastered before you tackle the forever land / home combo. Septic seemed to be the way to could’ve been better elsewhere.
You’re right Therefore in case we get a house built on this property, we will likely find ourselves with A LOT of equity. Flipping the property would definitely be an option and even if we keep it, we hope that our wealth will snowball once we have zero debt and a low monthly overhead, ain’t an option seek for to roll their RV on some land and build their place with cash seek for to be under anyone’s thumb and don’t need to pay interest, nor do they need to rely on monthly payments of anything. Let me tell you something. Part of their goals is no debt and pay things like taxes, cell phones and insurance and things like that annually.
She said that true freedom is forgetting what day of the month That’s a fact, it’s, and to not be concerned with running out to pay bills. Sometimes they will give you a deal if you pay up front! They have their hearts set on a place near a year round creek and that one’s a ‘non negotiable’. After living in a RV, they like the idea of not accumulating a bunch of stuff that pretty much owns you, like you. Now let me tell you something. One other thing they are doing is easing into country work skills. The husband can do mechanical work on farm implements from learning from a man he knows as well as other skills that are necessary out in the frontier of homesteading. In the winter here in PA we wrapped the tank with insulation but before a big blizzard, filled up some jugs kept inside just in case of freezing. We started an offgrid life in Prior to getting a hand pump well on site, we set a large rain cistern up on a platform higher than our camper.